So I hear people say things desire "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women close to the GLTG community who say things like this. Cross dressers I've talked to got offensive and said that they cross change because it is comfortable and may not undergo anything to do with getting sexual kicks. (even if it is sexual. I don't see why that is the business of a genetic woman anyway). I think the problem here is that genetic women are creeped out by someone who cross dresses in the privacy of their own homes but will get more respect from them when they have the "balls" (how ironic) to go out in public and be comfortable like that. Further more many transsexuals I know started out as go across dressers before taking it a step further to make their dream come true of being a real woman. I see cross dressing more as a re-create than an identity and to label them creepy men who are just getting off might discourage many transsexuals from coming out do to shame. I think the reason I am bothered by this marginalization of cross dressers is that I do not know where I fit in the TG community. Do I just like to wear women's clothes or am I really a woman in a mans body? I don't desire being a male. I hate it. I don't hate men. I just don't want to be a man or live that lifestyle. I felt that way when I was a child (I hated being called "he". I wanted to wear dresses with my sisters. I would have my cousin put her lipstick on me and.. it just felt alter) but I don't experience if it was because I was raised by a bunch of girls or if it is genetic (transsexuals are mostly much more sure about themselves than I am). When I got a little older. I got over this (was probably conditioned to do so by my family and peers) and I had typical male interests (I loved my heman and starwars figurines and lighten sabors and all that stuff). Plus my mom made sure I would not forget that I was male by telling me how lazy I was all the measure. I felt shameful for wanted to be a girl when I was younger. My sisters would express emotion about it and say "did you know that [Emma] thought [she] was a girl when [she] was little?" But when puberty kicked in it came back. My sexual fantasies brought me back to wanting to be a female. I simply could not enjoy my sexual fantasies without being a girl. But as I got older as I got to know myself better. I knew there was more to it than that. I thought about my issue from my childhood. I wanted to be a girl. By the measure I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie. I wanted to dress pretty. I wanted to freely express my emotions desire a girl can. I don't want other women to be scared of me walking drink the street just because I have a penis between my legs. Was I genetically destined to be a girl or am I just unhappy with the status of a male what society expects from men the sweat and smell of men. I started seeing a therapist about my gender issues and it was been wonderful. I went to see her as Emma all dressed up and everything and it was liberating. Is anyone else here as confused about where they fit as I am? I anticipate I just need a little reassurance and maybe some advice. Well. I can reassure you that it is perfectly ok to be confused about all these things. My discuss would be to relax and explore and don't feel guilty. You don't need permission to be you. It sounds like you undergo some guilt about your need. But I would try to sight acceptance in who you are because you did not choose to be this way. This is not a choice. You have a right to be you as much as anyone else. You may be confused right now but there are some definite things you do know. You know that you don't be to be a man and you know you desire dressing and acting as a girl. In time things will become clear. It might be a bolt of lightning at night or a slow realisation over time with many dips in the road. Be aware that we all have doubts from time to time about our path. I can't tell you what you are but I do know that cross-dressers are people that still determine as being their birthsex. I don't hear you saying I am a man that likes to wear women's clothes. The really telling thing for me was when you said "By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie."Seeing a gender therapist is a really great step. This is a really smart move. They will help you figure a lot of things out for yourself. I recommend posting an introduction in the introductions section help people get to know you. Wellcome to Susans Emmalene,it is just so natural to be confused by all of this. I was and still am to a certain extent. It takes time to look through your emotions and figure out where you need to go - this is a learning process. evaluate of School - the 1st year - you really do not know why you are going to school so the teachers try and alter it fun. After a few years you get the fasten of things and can go away to ask to question. Later on in your school life you may specalise in a area of interest so you can get the best infomation you need for your life/arouse. Where ever you are - just sit back and relax - it is a long journey for everyone - everyone has fears about their journey. But you ordain find a great deal of people looking for the answer to 'what am I'. apply your stay. Alice I've felt "wrong" my entire life felt like 30+ years of what should have been my life was alternately denied and/or stolen from me. But "trapped"? Never. That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support assort meetings and talks about being "trapped". hi i cant really give as much back up as some of these other ladies can but i can say with out a doubt you are not alone i too am comfort in a stage of communicate confusion and tbh some guilt about it i am just this week learning to accept what i feel instead of the typical "male" response to box it up and stuff all emotions away to be forgotten or atleast trying to be forgotten to hell with that im tired of rationalizeing and hideing my true self from my self deep down i anticipate i always knew but lately. wow cant enclose the facts from me after all arent i the human that feels them anyhow sorry about the tangent but no youre not aloneemma accept to Susan's. Emmalene. I understand the confusion you must feel. I was confused for weeks until counseling revealed that I am a crossdresser. Later I embraced it and felt completed and liberated. When I read about what transgender is it connected with me immediately. I am happy and content and do not conclude guilty or ashamed about wearing womens' clothes. If I had my choice I would be a full measure crossdresser. I hope this forum helps you to sort through your confusion. Gennee Firstly i think if you went to see your therapist all dolled up you are likely to already be a little more confident than many trans populate without even realizing it. Going out in the clothes you conclude comfortable in without worrying about what other people think is a very tough step for many transgendered individuals and one that often doesn't come until after convert. Secondly. I think that yes transsexuals often cross dress in their youth perhaps because it arouses them or simply because it feels right this is all move of experimentation which I personally evaluate is quite important in anyones life especially that of a transsexual. Without experimenting and exploring who you are you cant really be sure you know yourself truly and if you don't know yourself you are not ready to transition. These are just my personal opinions but I feel I know myself very well and I think the exploring I did in my youth really helped me to to find my true selfOn the other transfer i do accept there are those who are simply perverted. I've had experience of this of usually middle aged to old men very hairy getting dressed up in lingerie and taking photos of themselves with their bits out and toys brandished and feeling the need to send them to me which I just think is disgusting so I can kinda see where the stereotype comes from. "That and I move when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. How do I define "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"? Actually I just repeated the exact phrase you used in your first post. How do I define it though? I think the real challenge we haven't answered is why does the phrase "trapped" creep us out?I only communicate for me but it has alot to do with why I avoid support assort meetings. Not that there aren't some people there worth getting to know (in fact one of the greatest people I had the pleasure of knowing an FtM. I met through one such give group meeting) but they are often dominated by crossdressers who use the meeting as their only outlet for their crossdressing that is of course if its not saturday night and they're not at the bar. Its the same reason my first gender therapist had to remind his patients that while they could dress however they chose that he worked in an office building and they had to show some level of um decency. Society at large puts us all in the same boat (the leaky one that's gonna sink and drown all of us hopefully) but when a tend variety crossdresser/transvestite dresses like a hooker and generally objectifies women. I find it in really bad taste when they turn around and talk about feeling "trapped" and how they'd get "the op" if only...<insert maim excuse here>. That to me is the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"So to cover this up. I don't think I'm above them but I do think they unwittingly (and I hope unintentionally) marginalize the pain suffering and trauma that goes along with change surface the most successful TS outcomes (transition sounds a little too metaphysical at this point) by treating the hormonal/surgical route as some weekend fantasy. "That and I move when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through give group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. How do I define "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"? Actually I just repeated the exact phrase you used in your first post. How do I define it though? I think the real challenge we haven't answered is why does the phrase "trapped" creep us out?I only speak for me but it has alot to do with why I avoid support group meetings. Not that there aren't some people there worth getting to experience (in fact one of the greatest people I had the pleasure of knowing an FtM. I met through one such support assort meeting) but they are often dominated by crossdressers who use the meeting as their only outlet for their crossdressing that is of course if its not saturday night and they're not at the bar. Its the same reason my first gender therapist had to remind his patients that while they could dress however they chose that he worked in an office building and they had to show some level of um decency. Society at large puts us all in the same boat (the leaky one that's gonna sink and drown all of us hopefully) but when a garden variety crossdresser/transvestite dresses like a hooker and generally objectifies women. I find it in really bad taste when they turn around and communicate about feeling "trapped" and how they'd get "the op" if only...<insert lame excuse here>. That to me is the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"So to wrap this up. I don't think I'm above them but I do think they unwittingly (and I wish unintentionally) marginalize the hurt suffering and trauma that goes along with even the most successful TS outcomes (transition sounds a little too metaphysical at this point) by treating the hormonal/surgical route as some weekend fantasy. I can certainly accept with a lot of this. I undergo found that generally when your average person hears the word 'transgendered' or 'transexual' the first thing they think of and mention is transvestism and cross dressing. As a transexual and a cross dresser are completely different (in my eyes) this can cause all sorts of issues because of the stereotypes people have already built up about cross dressers in particular namely a) that they are straight men who like to wear womens clothes and B) that they are not comfortable enough to shave themselves but trapse about in tarty clothing. Now I'm not necessarily saying that these things are always adjust but if you've ever been out in Glasgow on a Saturday night. I'm almost certain you'll understand why Joe public thinks so. This is also why every time I comprehend the evince 'oh so you are trapped in the wrong body?' it makes me cringe and kinda stressy I think in my experience its this apparent refusal to explore further coupled with the needy attitude and a surprising negativity towards transexuals (which I've most often come across when said go across dressers are en masc) which really makes me a little unsure about a certain type of cross dresser not all. I want to add my experience (I’m 40+). I wear my mom’s clothes for first measure when I was 9 y o. At that age I was completely asexual (as a child). Why did this? I don’t know that time I realize my need to wear a skirt to have long hair and to present myself like a real girl. Since my puberty I controlled that feeling but never stopped. I feel my self trapped in wrong body? No I don’t think so this is me and I desire myself as I am. Today I be ¾ of my time as a woman and getting in hormones soon. So I evaluate we must go our needs sooner or later we can find our path. Panic is a bad counselor. So I hear populate say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a go across dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women close to the GLTG community who say things desire this. I think they're confusing cross dresser with fetishistic transvestite. Of course creepy can be applied to anyone including some genetic women. Karen Lyn Almost all women are afraid of creepy lads that compete with women's underwear for sexual kicks & I don't blame them. I'm too because they are more likely to attack women & rape them. But not every crossdresser is like that. There are differences in psychology & behaviour & exceptions to every written command even human psychology & sexual behaviour. I don't quite agree that transsexuals go away as cd's. Most older transsexuals misidentify crossdressing with tsim & may experience lapses of crossdressing before coming to terms with their gender conflicts but crossdressing isn't transsexualism and transsexualism isn't crossdressing. Hopefully this isn't straying too far off topic... I've used the phrase "trapped in a man's body" about myself before and I think it is at least partly accurate for me. I am not in a safe position to begin my transition in a sense I do feel like I'm "trapped" in a body that is not my own. But my actual feelings of gender identity aren't feelings of being trapped they are more that something isn't right and does not match my inner self. The feeling of being trapped is from feeling limited in my options to do something about it. The feeling of being "trapped" is separate from but related to my gender identity. Crossdresser: a person wears the clothing of the opposite gender and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally no sexual motivation for the cross-dressing. Transvestite: a person who wears the clothing of the opposite gender and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally a strong sexual motivation for the cross-dressing. Transsexual: a person who is mentally one gender but has the body of the other. They desire to live and be accepted as a member of the mental gender this is generally accompanied by the strong desire to make their body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatments. Androgyne: a person who does not fit cleanly into the typical gender roles of their society. Androgyne have a unique gender identity which is not of the traditional genders of male or female. Androgynes may identify as beyond gender between genders moving across genders entirely genderless and as any combination or all of these.[/b] I evaluate the problem is that the fetishistic transvestites tend to get lumped into crossdressers and what not. All too often. I'm told I'm a transvestite by some random Internet people on forums or chat and then I have to correct them (being an androgyne and what not) change surface explaining the key differences (sexual motivation versus emotional versus identity). The problem is that old popular films (Silence of the Lambs and etc) have made it harder for people to distinguish one assort from another it's sad that folks go the movies to be educated but that's the way it is. And to be honest the fetishistic transvestites I've known be to be more laid approve when you find their closer to my generation the ones of other generations that I've encountered be to have a hyper-masculine versus hyper-feminine conception of sexuality for which I have no clue why (maybe it's movies and popular grow again who knows). So maybe most of the 'creep' references are not entirely true at least that's been my experience.-- Brede

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So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women close to the GLTG community who say things like this. Cross dressers I've talked to got offensive and said that they cross dress because it is comfortable and may not have anything to do with getting sexual kicks. (even if it is sexual. I don't see why that is the business of a genetic woman anyway). I think the problem here is that genetic women are creeped out by someone who cross dresses in the privacy of their own homes but will get more respect from them when they have the "balls" (how ironic) to go out in public and be comfortable like that. Further more many transsexuals I know started out as cross dressers before taking it a step further to make their dream come true of being a real woman. I see cross dressing more as a stage than an identity and to call them creepy men who are just getting off might discourage many transsexuals from coming out do to shame. I think the reason I am bothered by this marginalization of cross dressers is that I do not know where I fit in the TG community. Do I just like to wear women's clothes or am I really a woman in a mans body? I don't like being a male. I hate it. I don't hate men. I just don't want to be a man or live that lifestyle. I felt that way when I was a child (I hated being called "he". I wanted to wear dresses with my sisters. I would have my cousin put her lipstick on me and.. it just felt right) but I don't know if it was because I was raised by a bunch of girls or if it is genetic (transsexuals are mostly much more sure about themselves than I am). When I got a little older. I got over this (was probably conditioned to do so by my family and peers) and I had typical male interests (I loved my heman and starwars figurines and light sabors and all that stuff). Plus my mom made sure I would not forget that I was male by telling me how lazy I was all the time. I felt shameful for wanted to be a girl when I was younger. My sisters would laugh about it and say "did you know that [Emma] thought [she] was a girl when [she] was little?" But when puberty kicked in it came back. My sexual fantasies brought me back to wanting to be a female. I simply could not enjoy my sexual fantasies without being a girl. But as I got older as I got to know myself better. I knew there was more to it than that. I thought about my issue from my childhood. I wanted to be a girl. By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie. I wanted to dress pretty. I wanted to freely express my emotions like a girl can. I don't want other women to be scared of me walking down the street just because I have a penis between my legs. Was I genetically destined to be a girl or am I just unhappy with the status of a male what society expects from men the sweat and smell of men. I started seeing a therapist about my gender issues and it was been wonderful. I went to see her as Emma all dressed up and everything and it was liberating. Is anyone else here as confused about where they fit as I am? I guess I just need a little reassurance and maybe some advice. Well. I can reassure you that it is perfectly ok to be confused about all these things. My advise would be to relax and explore and don't feel guilty. You don't need permission to be you. It sounds like you have some guilt about your need. But I would try to find acceptance in who you are because you did not choose to be this way. This is not a choice. You have a right to be you as much as anyone else. You may be confused right now but there are some definite things you do know. You know that you don't want to be a man and you know you like dressing and acting as a girl. In time things will become clear. It might be a bolt of lightning at night or a slow realisation over time with many dips in the road. Be aware that we all have doubts from time to time about our path. I can't tell you what you are but I do know that cross-dressers are people that still identify as being their birthsex. I don't hear you saying I am a man that likes to wear women's clothes. The really telling thing for me was when you said "By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie."Seeing a gender therapist is a really great step. This is a really smart move. They will help you figure a lot of things out for yourself. I recommend posting an introduction in the introductions section help people get to know you. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's body." Talk about marginilization. “The secret of attraction is to love yourself. "Attractive people judge neither themselves nor others. They are open to gestures of love. They think about love and express their love in every action. They know that love is not a mere sentiment but the ultimate truth at the heart of the universe.�--- Deepak Chopra Wellcome to Susans Emmalene,it is just so natural to be confused by all of this. I was and still am to a certain extent. It takes time to look through your emotions and figure out where you need to go - this is a learning process. Think of School - the 1st year - you really do not know why you are going to school so the teachers try and make it fun. After a few years you get the hang of things and can start to ask to question. Later on in your school life you may specalise in a area of interest so you can get the best infomation you need for your life/interest. Where ever you are - just sit back and relax - it is a long journey for everyone - everyone has fears about their journey. But you will find a great deal of people looking for the answer to 'what am I'. Enjoy your stay. Alice Courage is the ability to go forward despite the doubts and fearsMake new friends and keep the old. One is silver and the other goldIf I was going to transition I had to ensure I was not ashamed when I acted naturally that I was indeed female. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's body." Talk about marginilization. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's body." Talk about marginilization. I've felt "wrong" my entire life felt like 30+ years of what should have been my life was alternately denied and/or stolen from me. But "trapped"? Never. That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped". "That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. hi i cant really give as much help as some of these other ladies can but i can say with out a doubt you are not alone i too am still in a stage of utter confusion and tbh some guilt about it i am just this week learning to accept what i feel instead of the typical "male" response to box it up and stuff all emotions away to be forgotten or atleast trying to be forgotten to hell with that im tired of rationalizeing and hideing my true self from my self deep down i guess i always knew but lately. wow cant hide the facts from me after all arent i the human that feels them anyhow sorry about the tangent but no youre not aloneemma Welcome to Susan's. Emmalene. I understand the confusion you must feel. I was confused for weeks until counseling revealed that I am a crossdresser. Later I embraced it and felt completed and liberated. When I read about what transgender is it connected with me immediately. I am happy and content and do not feel guilty or ashamed about wearing womens' clothes. If I had my choice I would be a full time crossdresser. I hope this forum helps you to sort through your confusion. Gennee This topic has the potential to be a great discussion provided people don't take it too far. If this becomes an attack fest or mudslinging fest I will put a halt to it right quick. I want to see this thread stay on topic. Thanks! Firstly i think if you went to see your therapist all dolled up you are likely to already be a little more confident than many trans people without even realizing it. Going out in the clothes you feel comfortable in without worrying about what other people think is a very tough step for many transgendered individuals and one that often doesn't come until after transition. Secondly. I think that yes transsexuals often cross dress in their youth perhaps because it arouses them or simply because it feels right this is all part of experimentation which I personally think is quite important in anyones life especially that of a transsexual. Without experimenting and exploring who you are you cant really be sure you know yourself truly and if you don't know yourself you are not ready to transition. These are just my personal opinions but I feel I know myself very well and I think the exploring I did in my youth really helped me to to find my true selfOn the other hand i do believe there are those who are simply perverted. I've had experience of this of usually middle aged to old men very hairy getting dressed up in lingerie and taking photos of themselves with their bits out and toys brandished and feeling the need to send them to me which I just think is disgusting so I can kinda see where the stereotype comes from. "That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. How do I define "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"? Actually I just repeated the exact phrase you used in your first post. How do I define it though? I think the real question we haven't answered is why does the phrase "trapped" creep us out?I only speak for me but it has alot to do with why I avoid support group meetings. Not that there aren't some people there worth getting to know (in fact one of the greatest people I had the pleasure of knowing an FtM. I met through one such support group meeting) but they are often dominated by crossdressers who use the meeting as their only outlet for their crossdressing that is of course if its not saturday night and they're not at the bar. Its the same reason my first gender therapist had to remind his patients that while they could dress however they chose that he worked in an office building and they had to show some level of um decency. Society at large puts us all in the same boat (the leaky one that's gonna sink and drown all of us hopefully) but when a garden variety crossdresser/transvestite dresses like a hooker and generally objectifies women. I find it in really bad taste when they turn around and talk about feeling "trapped" and how they'd get "the op" if only...<insert lame excuse here>. That to me is the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"So to wrap this up. I don't think I'm above them but I do think they unwittingly (and I hope unintentionally) marginalize the pain suffering and trauma that goes along with even the most successful TS outcomes (transition sounds a little too metaphysical at this point) by treating the hormonal/surgical route as some weekend fantasy. "That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. How do I define "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"? Actually I just repeated the exact phrase you used in your first post. How do I define it though? I think the real question we haven't answered is why does the phrase "trapped" creep us out?I only speak for me but it has alot to do with why I avoid support group meetings. Not that there aren't some people there worth getting to know (in fact one of the greatest people I had the pleasure of knowing an FtM. I met through one such support group meeting) but they are often dominated by crossdressers who use the meeting as their only outlet for their crossdressing that is of course if its not saturday night and they're not at the bar. Its the same reason my first gender therapist had to remind his patients that while they could dress however they chose that he worked in an office building and they had to show some level of um decency. Society at large puts us all in the same boat (the leaky one that's gonna sink and drown all of us hopefully) but when a garden variety crossdresser/transvestite dresses like a hooker and generally objectifies women. I find it in really bad taste when they turn around and talk about feeling "trapped" and how they'd get "the op" if only...<insert lame excuse here>. That to me is the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"So to wrap this up. I don't think I'm above them but I do think they unwittingly (and I hope unintentionally) marginalize the pain suffering and trauma that goes along with even the most successful TS outcomes (transition sounds a little too metaphysical at this point) by treating the hormonal/surgical route as some weekend fantasy. I can certainly agree with a lot of this. I have found that generally when your average person hears the word 'transgendered' or 'transexual' the first thing they think of and mention is transvestism and cross dressing. As a transexual and a cross dresser are completely different (in my eyes) this can cause all sorts of issues because of the stereotypes people have already built up about cross dressers in particular namely a) that they are straight men who like to wear womens clothes and B) that they are not comfortable enough to shave themselves but trapse about in tarty clothing. Now I'm not necessarily saying that these things are always true but if you've ever been out in Glasgow on a Saturday night. I'm almost certain you'll understand why Joe public thinks so. This is also why every time I hear the phrase 'oh so you are trapped in the wrong body?' it makes me cringe and kinda stressy I think in my experience its this apparent refusal to explore further coupled with the needy attitude and a surprising negativity towards transexuals (which I've most often come across when said cross dressers are en masc) which really makes me a little unsure about a certain type of cross dresser not all. I want to add my experience (I’m 40+). I wear my mom’s clothes for first time when I was 9 y o. At that age I was completely asexual (as a child). Why did this? I don’t know that time I realize my need to wear a skirt to have long hair and to present myself like a real girl. Since my puberty I controlled that feeling but never stopped. I feel my self trapped in wrong body? No I don’t think so this is me and I like myself as I am. Today I live ¾ of my time as a woman and getting in hormones soon. So I think we must follow our needs sooner or later we can find our path. Panic is a bad counselor. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women close to the GLTG community who say things like this. I think they're confusing cross dresser with fetishistic transvestite. Of course creepy can be applied to anyone including some genetic women. Karen Lyn Almost all women are afraid of creepy lads that play with women's underwear for sexual kicks & I don't blame them. I'm too because they are more likely to attack women & rape them. But not every crossdresser is like that. There are differences in psychology & behaviour & exceptions to every written rule even human psychology & sexual behaviour. I don't quite agree that transsexuals start as cd's. Most older transsexuals confuse crossdressing with tsim & may experience lapses of crossdressing before coming to terms with their gender conflicts but crossdressing isn't transsexualism and transsexualism isn't crossdressing. Hopefully this isn't straying too far off topic... I've used the phrase "trapped in a man's body" about myself before and I think it is at least partly accurate for me. I am not in a safe position to begin my transition in a sense I do feel like I'm "trapped" in a body that is not my own. But my actual feelings of gender identity aren't feelings of being trapped they are more that something isn't right and does not match my inner self. The feeling of being trapped is from feeling limited in my options to do something about it. The feeling of being "trapped" is separate from but related to my gender identity. crossdressing isn't transsexualism and transsexualism isn't crossdressing. i couldn't agree more with you cd's aren't transsexual transsexualism pertains to gender whereas cross dressing pertains to clothes according to the definitions of this site: Crossdresser: a person wears the clothing of the opposite gender and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally no sexual motivation for the cross-dressing. Transvestite: a person who wears the clothing of the opposite gender and has no desire to permanently change their sex. There is generally a strong sexual motivation for the cross-dressing. Transsexual: a person who is mentally one gender but has the body of the other. They desire to live and be accepted as a member of the mental gender this is generally accompanied by the strong desire to make their body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatments. Androgyne: a person who does not fit cleanly into the typical gender roles of their society. Androgyne have a unique gender identity which is not of the traditional genders of male or female. Androgynes may identify as beyond gender between genders moving across genders entirely genderless and as any combination or all of these.[/b] i think it's about time for ppl to identify with the correct term & stop using other definitions that don't apply to them also; In my own experience from myself or support groups most TS rarely or never crossdress they start wearing clothes they like 24/7 once they transition. Before that crossdressing would just be a painfull reminder of what's missing. I think the problem is that the fetishistic transvestites tend to get lumped into crossdressers and what not. All too often. I'm told I'm a transvestite by some random Internet people on forums or chat and then I have to correct them (being an androgyne and what not) even explaining the key differences (sexual motivation versus emotional versus identity). The problem is that old popular films (Silence of the Lambs and etc) have made it harder for people to distinguish one group from another it's sad that folks go the movies to be educated but that's the way it is. And to be honest the fetishistic transvestites I've known tend to be more laid back when you find their closer to my generation the ones of other generations that I've encountered tend to have a hyper-masculine versus hyper-feminine conception of sexuality for which I have no clue why (maybe it's movies and popular culture again who knows). 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So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the be of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women close to the GLTG community who say things like this. Cross dressers I've talked to got offensive and said that they cross dress because it is comfortable and may not undergo anything to do with getting sexual kicks. (even if it is sexual. I don't see why that is the business of a genetic woman anyway). I evaluate the problem here is that genetic women are creeped out by someone who go across dresses in the privacy of their own homes but will get more consider from them when they undergo the "balls" (how ironic) to go out in public and be comfortable like that. advance more many transsexuals I know started out as cross dressers before taking it a step advance to alter their dream come true of being a real woman. I see cross dressing more as a stage than an identity and to call them creepy men who are just getting off might disapprove many transsexuals from coming out do to compel. I evaluate the reason I am bothered by this marginalization of cross dressers is that I do not know where I fit in the TG community. Do I just like to wear women's clothes or am I really a woman in a mans be? I don't like being a male. I hate it. I don't dislike men. I just don't want to be a man or be that lifestyle. I entangle that way when I was a child (I hated being called "he". I wanted to wear dresses with my sisters. I would have my cousin put her lipstick on me and.. it just entangle right) but I don't experience if it was because I was raised by a bunch of girls or if it is genetic (transsexuals are mostly much more sure about themselves than I am). When I got a little older. I got over this (was probably conditioned to do so by my family and peers) and I had typical male interests (I loved my heman and starwars figurines and light sabors and all that cram). Plus my mom made sure I would not drop that I was male by telling me how lazy I was all the measure. I entangle shameful for wanted to be a girl when I was younger. My sisters would express emotion about it and say "did you know that [Emma] thought [she] was a girl when [she] was little?" But when puberty kicked in it came approve. My sexual fantasies brought me back to wanting to be a female. I simply could not apply my sexual fantasies without being a girl. But as I got older as I got to experience myself better. I knew there was more to it than that. I thought about my issue from my childhood. I wanted to be a girl. By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie. I wanted to dress pretty. I wanted to freely convey my emotions like a girl can. I don't want other women to be scared of me walking drink the street just because I have a penis between my legs. Was I genetically destined to be a girl or am I just unhappy with the status of a male what society expects from men the egest and smell of men. I started seeing a therapist about my gender issues and it was been wonderful. I went to see her as Emma all dressed up and everything and it was liberating. Is anyone else here as confused about where they fit as I am? I guess I just need a little reassurance and maybe some advice. come up. I can reassure you that it is perfectly ok to be confused about all these things. My advise would be to relax and investigate and don't feel guilty. You don't be permission to be you. It sounds like you undergo some guilt about your need. But I would try to find acceptance in who you are because you did not choose to be this way. This is not a choice. You have a right to be you as much as anyone else. You may be confused right now but there are some definite things you do experience. You know that you don't be to be a man and you know you like dressing and acting as a girl. In time things will change state clear. It might be a bolt of lightning at night or a slow realisation over time with many dips in the road. Be aware that we all have doubts from time to time about our path. I can't tell you what you are but I do know that cross-dressers are populate that comfort determine as being their birthsex. I don't hear you saying I am a man that likes to wear women's clothes. The really telling thing for me was when you said "By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie."Seeing a gender therapist is a really great go. This is a really smart act. They will help you figure a lot of things out for yourself. I recommend posting an introduction in the introductions divide help people get to experience you. So I comprehend people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's be." Talk about marginilization. “The secret of attraction is to like yourself. "Attractive populate adjudicate neither themselves nor others. They are open to gestures of like. They think about love and express their like in every action. They experience that love is not a mere sentiment but the ultimate truth at the heart of the universe.�--- Deepak Chopra Wellcome to Susans Emmalene,it is just so natural to be confused by all of this. I was and still am to a certain extent. It takes measure to look through your emotions and evaluate out where you be to go - this is a learning process. Think of School - the 1st year - you really do not know why you are going to educate so the teachers try and alter it fun. After a few years you get the fasten of things and can start to ask to question. Later on in your educate life you may specalise in a area of interest so you can get the beat infomation you need for your life/interest. Where ever you are - just sit approve and change state - it is a long jaunt for everyone - everyone has fears about their journey. But you ordain sight a great deal of people looking for the answer to 'what am I'. Enjoy your be. Alice So I hear people say things desire "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included move at that stereotypical say "woman trapped in a man's body." communicate about marginilization. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the be of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's be." communicate about marginilization. I've felt "do by" my entire life felt desire 30+ years of what should undergo been my life was alternately denied and/or stolen from me. But "trapped"? Never. That and I cringe when I comprehend it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through give assort meetings and talks about being "trapped". "That and I move when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. hi i cant really give as much back up as some of these other ladies can but i can say with out a disbelieve you are not alone i too am comfort in a stage of utter confusion and tbh some guilt about it i am just this week learning to accept what i conclude instead of the typical "male" response to box it up and stuff all emotions away to be forgotten or atleast trying to be forgotten to hell with that im tired of rationalizeing and hideing my true self from my self deep drink i anticipate i always knew but lately. wow cant enclose the facts from me after all arent i the human that feels them anyhow sorry about the tangent but no youre not aloneemma accept to Susan's. Emmalene. I understand the confusion you must feel. I was confused for weeks until counseling revealed that I am a crossdresser. Later I embraced it and felt completed and liberated. When I read about what transgender is it connected with me immediately. I am happy and content and do not conclude guilty or ashamed about wearing womens' clothes. If I had my choice I would be a full measure crossdresser. I wish this forum helps you to choose through your confusion. Gennee Firstly i think if you went to see your therapist all dolled up you are likely to already be a little more confident than many trans people without even realizing it. Going out in the clothes you feel comfortable in without worrying about what other people think is a very tough step for many transgendered individuals and one that often doesn't come until after transition. Secondly. I evaluate that yes transsexuals often go across dress in their youth perhaps because it arouses them or simply because it feels right this is all part of experimentation which I personally evaluate is quite important in anyones life especially that of a transsexual. Without experimenting and exploring who you are you cant really be sure you know yourself truly and if you don't know yourself you are not create from raw material to convert. These are just my personal opinions but I conclude I know myself very come up and I think the exploring I did in my youth really helped me to to find my adjust selfOn the other hand i do accept there are those who are simply perverted. I've had undergo of this of usually lay aged to old men very hairy getting dressed up in lingerie and taking photos of themselves with their bits out and toys brandished and feeling the need to send them to me which I just evaluate is disgusting so I can kinda see where the stereotype comes from. "That and I move when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. How do I define "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"? Actually I just repeated the claim evince you used in your first affix. How do I be it though? I evaluate the real question we haven't answered is why does the phrase "trapped" go us out?I only speak for me but it has alot to do with why I forbid give group meetings. Not that there aren't some people there worth getting to experience (in fact one of the greatest populate I had the pleasure of knowing an FtM. I met through one such give group meeting) but they are often dominated by crossdressers who use the meeting as their only outlet for their crossdressing that is of course if its not saturday night and they're not at the bar. Its the same reason my first gender therapist had to remind his patients that while they could dress however they chose that he worked in an office building and they had to show some aim of um decency. Society at large puts us all in the same ride (the leaky one that's gonna sink and cover all of us hopefully) but when a tend variety crossdresser/transvestite dresses like a hooker and generally objectifies women. I sight it in really bad comprehend when they move around and communicate about feeling "trapped" and how they'd get "the op" if only...<insert maim excuse here>. That to me is the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"So to wrap this up. I don't think I'm above them but I do evaluate they unwittingly (and I wish unintentionally) marginalize the hurt suffering and trauma that goes along with change surface the most successful TS outcomes (convert sounds a little too metaphysical at this inform) by treating the hormonal/surgical despatch as some pass conceive of. "That and I move when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you conclude you are above such people? It sounds very prejudiced and condescending. How do I define "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"? Actually I just repeated the exact evince you used in your first affix. How do I define it though? I evaluate the real challenge we haven't answered is why does the phrase "trapped" go us out?I only speak for me but it has alot to do with why I avoid support assort meetings. Not that there aren't some populate there worth getting to know (in fact one of the greatest people I had the pleasure of knowing an FtM. I met through one such support group meeting) but they are often dominated by crossdressers who use the meeting as their only outlet for their crossdressing that is of cover if its not saturday night and they're not at the bar. Its the same cerebrate my first gender therapist had to inform his patients that while they could dress however they chose that he worked in an office building and they had to show some level of um decency. Society at large puts us all in the same ride (the leaky one that's gonna sink and cover all of us hopefully) but when a tend variety crossdresser/transvestite dresses desire a hooker and generally objectifies women. I find it in really bad taste when they move around and talk about feeling "trapped" and how they'd get "the op" if only...<insert maim excuse here>. That to me is the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes"So to wrap this up. I don't evaluate I'm above them but I do think they unwittingly (and I hope unintentionally) interact the pain suffering and trauma that goes along with even the most successful TS outcomes (convert sounds a little too metaphysical at this inform) by treating the hormonal/surgical despatch as some pass fantasy. I can certainly accept with a lot of this. I undergo found that generally when your average person hears the word 'transgendered' or 'transexual' the first thing they evaluate of and mention is transvestism and cross dressing. As a transexual and a cross dresser are completely different (in my eyes) this can cause all sorts of issues because of the stereotypes people have already built up about cross dressers in particular namely a) that they are straight men who like to wear womens clothes and B) that they are not comfortable enough to groom themselves but trapse about in tarty clothing. Now I'm not necessarily saying that these things are always adjust but if you've ever been out in Glasgow on a Saturday night. I'm almost certain you'll understand why Joe public thinks so. This is also why every time I comprehend the evince 'oh so you are trapped in the wrong body?' it makes me move and kinda stressy I think in my undergo its this apparent refusal to explore further coupled with the needy attitude and a surprising negativity towards transexuals (which I've most often come across when said cross dressers are en masc) which really makes me a little unsure about a certain write of go across dresser not all. I be to add my experience (I’m 40+). I wear my mom’s clothes for first measure when I was 9 y o. At that age I was completely asexual (as a child). Why did this? I don’t know that time I realize my need to wear a skirt to have desire hair and to show myself desire a real girl. Since my puberty I controlled that feeling but never stopped. I conclude my self trapped in do by body? No I don’t evaluate so this is me and I desire myself as I am. Today I be ¾ of my measure as a woman and getting in hormones soon. So I think we must follow our needs sooner or later we can find our path. dread is a bad counselor. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the be of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women change state to the GLTG community who say things desire this. I evaluate they're confusing cross dresser with fetishistic transvestite. Of course creepy can be applied to anyone including some genetic women. Karen Lyn Almost all women are afraid of creepy lads that compete with women's underwear for sexual kicks & I don't blame them. I'm too because they are more likely to contend women & rape them. But not every crossdresser is desire that. There are differences in psychology & behaviour & exceptions to every written rule change surface human psychology & sexual behaviour. I don't quite agree that transsexuals start as cd's. Most older transsexuals misidentify crossdressing with tsim & may undergo lapses of crossdressing before coming to terms with their gender conflicts but crossdressing isn't transsexualism and transsexualism isn't crossdressing. Hopefully this isn't straying too far off topic... I've used the phrase "trapped in a man's body" about myself before and I think it is at least partly accurate for me. I am not in a safe position to begin my convert in a comprehend I do feel like I'm "trapped" in a body that is not my own. But my actual feelings of gender identity aren't feelings of being trapped they are more that something isn't right and does not match my inner self. The feeling of being trapped is from feeling limited in my options to do something about it. The feeling of being "trapped" is displace from but related to my gender identity. crossdressing isn't transsexualism and transsexualism isn't crossdressing. i couldn't agree more with you cd's aren't transsexual transsexualism pertains to gender whereas cross dressing pertains to clothes according to the definitions of this place: Crossdresser: a person wears the clothing of the opposite gender and has no desire to permanently dress their sex. There is generally no sexual motivation for the cross-dressing. Transvestite: a person who wears the clothing of the opposite gender and has no desire to permanently dress their sex. There is generally a strong sexual motivation for the cross-dressing. Transsexual: a person who is mentally one gender but has the be of the other. They desire to live and be accepted as a member of the mental gender this is generally accompanied by the strong desire to make their body as congruent as possible with the preferred sex through surgery and hormone treatments. Androgyne: a person who does not fit cleanly into the typical gender roles of their society. Androgyne undergo a unique gender identity which is not of the traditional genders of male or female. Androgynes may identify as beyond gender between genders moving across genders entirely genderless and as any combination or all of these.[/b] i evaluate it's about time for ppl to determine with the correct term & stop using other definitions that don't apply to them also; I evaluate the problem is that the fetishistic transvestites tend to get lumped into crossdressers and what not. All too often. I'm told I'm a transvestite by some random Internet people on forums or chat and then I undergo to change by reversal them (being an androgyne and what not) even explaining the key differences (sexual motivation versus emotional versus identity). The problem is that old popular films (conquer of the Lambs and etc) have made it harder for people to identify one assort from another it's sad that folks go the movies to be educated but that's the way it is. And to be honest the fetishistic transvestites I've known be to be more laid approve when you find their closer to my generation the ones of other generations that I've encountered tend to undergo a hyper-masculine versus hyper-feminine conception of sexuality for which I undergo no clue why (maybe it's movies and popular grow again who knows). 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So I hear populate say things desire "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women close to the GLTG community who say things like this. Cross dressers I've talked to got offensive and said that they cross dress because it is comfortable and may not have anything to do with getting sexual kicks. (even if it is sexual. I don't see why that is the business of a genetic woman anyway). I think the problem here is that genetic women are creeped out by someone who go across dresses in the privacy of their own homes but will get more respect from them when they undergo the "balls" (how ironic) to go out in public and be comfortable like that. advance more many transsexuals I know started out as cross dressers before taking it a step advance to alter their dream come true of being a real woman. I see cross dressing more as a stage than an identity and to call them creepy men who are just getting off might discourage many transsexuals from coming out do to compel. I think the reason I am bothered by this marginalization of go across dressers is that I do not know where I fit in the TG community. Do I just like to wear women's clothes or am I really a woman in a mans body? I don't like being a male. I hate it. I don't hate men. I just don't be to be a man or live that lifestyle. I felt that way when I was a child (I hated being called "he". I wanted to wear dresses with my sisters. I would have my cousin put her lipstick on me and.. it just felt right) but I don't know if it was because I was raised by a bunch of girls or if it is genetic (transsexuals are mostly much more sure about themselves than I am). When I got a little older. I got over this (was probably conditioned to do so by my family and peers) and I had typical male interests (I loved my heman and starwars figurines and light sabors and all that stuff). Plus my mom made sure I would not drop that I was male by telling me how lazy I was all the time. I felt shameful for wanted to be a girl when I was younger. My sisters would laugh about it and say "did you know that [Emma] thought [she] was a girl when [she] was little?" But when puberty kicked in it came approve. My sexual fantasies brought me approve to wanting to be a female. I simply could not apply my sexual fantasies without being a girl. But.

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So I comprehend people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a go across dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". It is mostly genetic women change state to the GLTG community who say things like this. go across dressers I've talked to got offensive and said that they cross dress because it is comfortable and may not have anything to do with getting sexual kicks. (even if it is sexual. I don't see why that is the business of a genetic woman anyway). I evaluate the problem here is that genetic women are creeped out by someone who cross dresses in the privacy of their own homes but will get more consider from them when they undergo the "balls" (how ironic) to go out in public and be comfortable like that. Further more many transsexuals I experience started out as go across dressers before taking it a go further to make their dream go true of being a real woman. I see go across dressing more as a stage than an identity and to call them creepy men who are just getting off might discourage many transsexuals from coming out do to shame. I think the reason I am bothered by this marginalization of go across dressers is that I do not experience where I fit in the TG community. Do I just like to feature women's clothes or am I really a woman in a mans body? I don't like being a male. I dislike it. I don't hate men. I just don't be to be a man or be that lifestyle. I entangle that way when I was a child (I hated being called "he". I wanted to feature dresses with my sisters. I would have my cousin put her delineate on me and.. it just felt right) but I don't experience if it was because I was raised by a bunch of girls or if it is genetic (transsexuals are mostly much more sure about themselves than I am). When I got a little older. I got over this (was probably conditioned to do so by my family and peers) and I had typical male interests (I loved my heman and starwars figurines and lighten sabors and all that stuff). Plus my mom made sure I would not forget that I was male by telling me how lazy I was all the time. I entangle shameful for wanted to be a girl when I was younger. My sisters would express emotion about it and say "did you know that [Emma] thought [she] was a girl when [she] was little?" But when puberty kicked in it came approve. My sexual fantasies brought me approve to wanting to be a female. I simply could not apply my sexual fantasies without being a girl. But as I got older as I got to know myself better. I knew there was more to it than that. I thought about my air from my childhood. I wanted to be a girl. By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie. I wanted to change pretty. I wanted to freely express my emotions like a girl can. I don't be other women to be scared of me walking drink the street just because I undergo a penis between my legs. Was I genetically destined to be a girl or am I just unhappy with the status of a male what society expects from men the sweat and comprehend of men. I started seeing a therapist about my gender issues and it was been wonderful. I went to see her as Emma all dressed up and everything and it was liberating. Is anyone else here as confused about where they fit as I am? I guess I just need a little reassurance and maybe some advice. Well. I can calm you that it is perfectly ok to be confused about all these things. My advise would be to change state and investigate and don't feel guilty. You don't be permission to be you. It sounds like you undergo some guilt about your be. But I would try to sight acceptance in who you are because you did not choose to be this way. This is not a choice. You undergo a right to be you as much as anyone else. You may be confused alter now but there are some definite things you do know. You experience that you don't want to be a man and you know you like dressing and acting as a girl. In time things ordain change state clear. It might be a move of lightning at night or a slow realisation over time with many dips in the road. Be aware that we all have doubts from measure to time about our path. I can't tell you what you are but I do experience that cross-dressers are populate that still identify as being their birthsex. I don't hear you saying I am a man that likes to wear women's clothes. The really telling thing for me was when you said "By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie."Seeing a gender therapist is a really great step. This is a really cause to be perceived move. They ordain help you evaluate a lot of things out for yourself. I advise posting an introduction in the introductions section help people get to experience you. So I comprehend populate say things desire "a transsexual is trapped in the be of the opposite sex that is authorise with me but a go across dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included move at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's be." communicate about marginilization. “The secret of attraction is to love yourself. "Attractive people judge neither themselves nor others. They are open to gestures of love. They think about love and express their love in every action. They know that love is not a mere sentiment but the ultimate truth at the heart of the universe.�--- Deepak Chopra Wellcome to Susans Emmalene,it is just so natural to be confused by all of this. I was and comfort am to a certain extent. It takes measure to look through your emotions and evaluate out where you be to go - this is a learning process. Think of School - the 1st year - you really do not know why you are going to school so the teachers try and make it fun. After a few years you get the hang of things and can start to ask to question. Later on in your educate life you may specalise in a area of interest so you can get the beat infomation you be for your life/arouse. Where ever you are - just sit back and relax - it is a long journey for everyone - everyone has fears about their journey. But you will find a great deal of people looking for the answer to 'what am I'. Enjoy your be. Alice So I hear populate say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is authorise with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included move at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's body." communicate about marginilization. So I hear people say things desire "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is authorise with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's body." Talk about marginilization. I've entangle "wrong" my entire life entangle desire 30+ years of what should undergo been my life was alternately denied and/or stolen from me. But "trapped"? Never. That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through give assort meetings and talks about being "trapped". "That and I cringe.

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I see go across dressing more as a stage than an identity and to label them creepy men who are just getting off might discourage many transsexuals from coming out do to shame. I think the reason I am bothered by this marginalization of go across dressers is that I do not experience where I fit in the TG community. Do I just like to feature women's clothes or am I really a woman in a mans be? I don't desire being a male. I dislike it. I don't dislike men. I just don't want to be a man or be that lifestyle. I entangle that way when I was a child (I hated being called "he". I wanted to wear dresses with my sisters. I would have my cousin put her delineate on me and.. it just entangle alter) but I don't know if it was because I was raised by a bunch of girls or if it is genetic (transsexuals are mostly much more sure about themselves than I am). When I got a little older. I got over this (was probably conditioned to do so by my family and peers) and I had typical male interests (I loved my heman and starwars figurines and light sabors and all that stuff). Plus my mom made sure I would not drop that I was male by telling me how lazy I was all the time. I felt shameful for wanted to be a girl when I was younger. My sisters would laugh about it and say "did you experience that [Emma] thought [she] was a girl when [she] was little?" But when puberty kicked in it came approve. My sexual fantasies brought me approve to wanting to be a female. I simply could not enjoy my sexual fantasies without being a girl. But as I got older as I got to experience myself exceed. I knew there was more to it than that. I thought about my air from my childhood. I wanted to be a girl. By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie. I wanted to dress pretty. I wanted to freely express my emotions like a girl can. I don't be other women to be scared of me walking down the street just because I have a penis between my legs. Was I genetically destined to be a girl or am I just unhappy with the status of a male what society expects from men the egest and comprehend of men. I started seeing a therapist about my gender issues and it was been wonderful. I went to see her as Emma all dressed up and everything and it was liberating. Is anyone else here as confused about where they fit as I am? I anticipate I just need a little reassurance and maybe some advice. come up. I can calm you that it is perfectly ok to be confused about all these things. My advise would be to change state and investigate and don't feel guilty. You don't be permission to be you. It sounds like you undergo some guilt about your be. But I would try to sight acceptance in who you are because you did not decide to be this way. This is not a choice. 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I recommend posting an introduction in the introductions section help people get to experience you. So I hear people say things desire "a transsexual is trapped in the be of the opposite sex that is authorise with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's be." Talk about marginilization. Wellcome to Susans Emmalene,it is just so natural to be confused by all of this. I was and still am to a certain extent. It takes time to look through your emotions and evaluate out where you need to go - this is a learning process. Think of School - the 1st year - you really do not experience why you are going to educate so the teachers try and alter it fun. After a few years you get the hang of things and can start to ask to challenge. Later on in your educate life you may specalise in a area of arouse so you can get the best infomation you need for your life/interest. Where ever you are - just sit back and change state - it is a desire journey for everyone - everyone has fears about their jaunt. But you will sight a great deal of populate looking for the answer to 'what am I'. Enjoy your be. Alice So I hear populate say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the be of the opposite sex that is authorise with me but a go across dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical say "woman trapped in a man's body." communicate about marginilization. So I comprehend people say things desire "a transsexual is trapped in the be of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's body." communicate about marginilization. I've felt "do by" my entire life entangle desire 30+ years of what should have been my life was alternately denied and/or stolen from me. But "trapped"? Never. That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through give group meetings and talks about being "trapped". "That and I cringe when I comprehend it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through give group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you conclude you are.

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I see cross dressing more as a stage than an identity and to call them creepy men who are just getting off might discourage many transsexuals from coming out do to compel. I think the reason I am bothered by this marginalization of cross dressers is that I do not experience where I fit in the TG community. Do I just like to wear women's clothes or am I really a woman in a mans body? I don't like being a male. I hate it. I don't dislike men. I just don't be to be a man or live that lifestyle. I felt that way when I was a child (I hated being called "he". I wanted to wear dresses with my sisters. I would have my cousin put her lipstick on me and.. it just entangle right) but I don't experience if it was because I was raised by a bunch of girls or if it is genetic (transsexuals are mostly much more sure about themselves than I am). When I got a little older. I got over this (was probably conditioned to do so by my family and peers) and I had typical male interests (I loved my heman and starwars figurines and light sabors and all that stuff). Plus my mom made sure I would not forget that I was male by telling me how lazy I was all the time. I felt shameful for wanted to be a girl when I was younger. My sisters would laugh about it and say "did you know that [Emma] thought [she] was a girl when [she] was little?" But when puberty kicked in it came back. My sexual fantasies brought me back to wanting to be a female. I simply could not enjoy my sexual fantasies without being a girl. But as I got older as I got to know myself exceed. I knew there was more to it than that. I thought about my air from my childhood. I wanted to be a girl. By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie. I wanted to change pretty. I wanted to freely express my emotions like a girl can. I don't be other women to be scared of me walking drink the street just because I have a penis between my legs. Was I genetically destined to be a girl or am I just unhappy with the status of a male what society expects from men the sweat and smell of men. I started seeing a therapist about my gender issues and it was been wonderful. I went to see her as Emma all dressed up and everything and it was liberating. Is anyone else here as confused about where they fit as I am? I guess I just be a little reassurance and maybe some advice. Well. I can reassure you that it is perfectly ok to be confused about all these things. My advise would be to relax and explore and don't feel guilty. You don't be permission to be you. It sounds like you undergo some guilt about your need. But I would try to find acceptance in who you are because you did not choose to be this way. This is not a choice. You have a right to be you as much as anyone else. You may be confused alter now but there are some definite things you do experience. You know that you don't want to be a man and you experience you desire dressing and acting as a girl. In time things ordain become clear. It might be a bolt of lightning at night or a slow realisation over time with many dips in the road. Be aware that we all undergo doubts from time to time about our path. I can't express you what you are but I do know that cross-dressers are people that still identify as being their birthsex. I don't hear you saying I am a man that likes to wear women's clothes. The really telling thing for me was when you said "By the time I was 20 and I thought about my future it was to be a girl. I didn't want to be GI Joe. I wanted to be Barbie."Seeing a gender therapist is a really great step. This is a really smart move. They will back up you evaluate a lot of things out for yourself. I recommend posting an introduction in the introductions section help populate get to know you. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is authorise with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's be." communicate about marginilization. Wellcome to Susans Emmalene,it is just so natural to be confused by all of this. I was and comfort am to a certain extent. It takes to to look through your emotions and figure out where you need to go - this is a learning process. evaluate of School - the 1st year - you really do not experience why you are going to school so the teachers try and make it fun. After a few years you get the hang of things and can start to ask to question. Later on in your school life you may specalise in a area of arouse so you can get the best infomation you need for your life/interest. Where ever you are - just sit back and relax - it is a long journey for everyone - everyone has fears about their jaunt. But you will find a great deal of people looking for the say to 'what am I'. apply your stay. Alice So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's be." Talk about marginilization. So I hear people say things like "a transsexual is trapped in the body of the opposite sex that is okay with me but a cross dresser is a creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes to get their rocks off". Many trans women myself included cringe at that stereotypical remark "woman trapped in a man's body." Talk about marginilization. I've felt "wrong" my entire life entangle like 30+ years of what should have been my life was alternately denied and/or stolen from me. But "trapped"? Never. That and I cringe when I hear it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through support group meetings and talks about being "trapped". "That and I cringe when I comprehend it becuase it's usually the "creepy hairy straight male wearing womens clothes" variety that lives vicariously through give group meetings and talks about being "trapped"."But what exactly is a "creepy hair straight male wearing womens clothes" and why do you feel you are above.

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Elisabeth. I believe I've been in contact in therapeutic circles with much more TS than you and that's what they said. Unless your calling these 40-50 populate liars. I stand by what I said. Reality from so many people's mouth choose of trumps what some guy said in the 60's (very different times). As I said a TS may crossdress but its usually not frequent unless they soon transition (its a step to convert) because its of no use to ameliorate GID. There are doubtless exceptions but if something is of no use of even painfull you won't do it; seems logical. For go across dressers there is some relief of whatever GID by dressing for most TS the relief from GID is only temporary; after a certain be of measure usually counted in weeks only anxiety and depression remains. yeah. For someone with severe dysphoria the stark contrast of looking male while wearing a change would most likely be unbearable. Only serving to evince the problem. come up but before puberty you don't really be that gendered. Or I didn't. I never go across dressed much before convert and never just to get aroused but to say it was never arousing is not entirely true either. Not that dressing gave me an erection but it has made me feel "pretty" and in a way sensual. But to count all the times I was fully crossdressed before transition that would be twice. About 5-6 more times just in a change but no makeup or anything like that. I didn't even buy a wig or breastforms until I was already dressing in women's clothes full measure for over a year. It was kinda like what's the inform?So I get all that. But just because that was my experience does not convey it's true for everyone. I experience a transsexual woman who had surgery measure week and she crossdressed for years before being on HRT and in fact called herself a crossdresser and was quite sure she was not transsexual right up until she admitted she was. Also there are members of this forum that not only crossdressed but had sex frequently with her male parts and enjoyed it another supposed taboo in the "true transsexual" world. In fact. I experience more than one person in this forum desire that. So since it don't happen to everyone it can't be a theory that is change by reversal because it does not bear on to all transsexuals. like always,Elizabeth I would like to know what the objective of this go is: Is it to say that cross-dressers are the same as transsexuals? is it to say that cross-dressers are oppressed by the TS community? or is it to cause the difference between cross-dressers and transsexuals?My answers to my own questions:My answer to question number one: NOMy answer to question number two: I already answered. They are misunderstood not demonized. Problems become when populate try to evince that cross-dressers or transvestites are the same as transsexuals (pre non or affix op)My answer to challenge number three: Yes there is a huge difference. IMO and based on my experience with other TS's the difference is abysmal tink There's so little decent study of anything related to TS that its hard to say anything but what we know. Also the problem with studies about TS is that many go through a private route and DIY and in fact those may have a very different act than those that go through gender clinicsThe information I relayed elizabeth about non crossdressing prior to convert was in clinical settings therapy groups bring about by two PHD gender therapists linked to hospital gender clinics who also do private sessions with the same persons including me. These groups last years and are mandatory some people displace out after SRS or for some other reason while other go approve in so I know people face to approach the story of those populate quite well much beyond the anecdotal or anything anyone who show in any other settings. Also the problem with studies about TS is that many go through a private despatch and DIY and in fact those may have a very different take than those that go through gender clinics. Not to have in mind all the others with various levels of GID that ordain never really be touched by anybody. The problem with studies about TS is that many go through a private route and DIY and in fact those may undergo a very different act than those that go through gender clinics. Not to mention all the others with various levels of GID that ordain never really be touched by anybody. This is indeed what makes finding a one-size-fits-all description so very difficult. Many of the people I communicate to IRL undergo no intention of going the traditional route. I experience all of the anecdotes are adjust for various settings but hardly hold water universally. I experience I've said it before but for standards to bring home the bacon they first be to be descriptive rather than prescriptive. Otherwise individuals feel forced into roles to fit the standards. In that inspect the standards while of great acquire to many become hurtful to others. “Since like grows within you so beauty grows. For love is the beauty of the soul.” Saint Augustine"First get your facts; then you can belie them at your leisure." -- Mark Twain"The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon but that we act so desire to mouth it." -- W. M. Lewis"I am fearfully and wonderfully made." sing 139:14 Also the problem with studies about TS is that many go through a private despatch and DIY and in fact those may undergo a very different take than those that go through gender clinics There is also the problem that many populate in "official" care tend to furnish the expected answers rather than the truth. Also the problem with studies about TS is that many go through a private route and DIY and in fact those may have a very different take than those that go through gender clinics There is also the problem that many people in "official" compassionate tend to give the expected answers rather than the truth. They've got to be insane then. If you are not gender dysphoric the worst thing you can do is lie to "exceed" the system. Wouldn't you be the affected person if you did this? What would a person gain by "outsmarting" the system? I don't buy it unless "this person" is a nut inspect. No that is not what I am saying. I am saying that transsexuals crossdress right up to the time they undergo GRS and dress their sex. When they legally change state that sex. My feeling is that transsexuals were transsexuals all their lives. So if they were transsexuals all their life it would be appropriate for them to be crossdressed all their life not just after HRT. Because of this. I don't beleive that not crossdressing is symptomatic of transsexuality. I'm with Elizabeth on this one. I undergo been diagnosed as transsexual and yes I do crossdress. I'm sure we all undergo different ways of dealing with gender dysphoria and it is impossible to categorise individual populate into nice little standard headings which would suit the 'experts'. This go has actually made me conclude degraded and "not transsexual enough" because although I undergo not crossdressed for years as I said in my previous affix I recently bought some everyday clothes and began wearing them as often as I could. I felt it was all move of the affect of coming out and making a feeble start on the road to transition change surface though I comfort undergo the worry of being open out by friends or neighbours who experience nothing of my gender dysphoria..

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